Coroner on my grandfather's "temporary" death certificate.
I spoke to him on the phone about two months ago.
He knew who my grandfather was - and told me he knew I had a case.
Gee Mr. Clavey you didn't happen to be in New York sometime this month did you - oh in the Upper East Side area?
You aren't by any chance missing your teeth and have gold replacements on them do you?
Would you mind telling me - how you knew I had a case -and what happened to my grandfather? Whose remains are those at the church? My father's or my grandfathers - since they are both supposed to be there and there is only one set of remains.
Since Bob Oliver head of the colubmaruim commite won't tell me -
The church has told me to "get a lawyer"
Perhaps you can be of some assistance?
From the audience, Mr. Orville “Pat” Clavey,
Mayor Rudny stated he said that and he stated he doesn’t want to have anything to do with Mr. Clavey now either.
Mr. Clavey asked if Mayor Rudny had nothing to do with him?
Mayor Rudny responded he spoke to Mr. Clavey. He was courteous to him, but he did not want Mr. Clavey involved with his campaign and that is what he told the reporter. He stated Mr. Clavey showed up election night. Mayor Rudny stated he did not invite Mr. Clavey and he showed up and the Mayor was courteous to him. And then a couple of days after the election, Mr. Clavey called the Mayor and he wanted the Mayor to talk to a law firm. Mayor Rudny did that and did not hire the law firm, nor did he intend to hire them because he had decided on Rudy Magna. Mayor Rudny stated he did not want anything to do with that law firm either and he will state that for the record.
Mr. Clavey stated he won’t call the Mayor a liar. He will just say the Mayor stretched the truth. Peter Karlovics called Mr. Clavey and asked him to support Mayor Rudny. He thought about it for awhile and finally consented that he would. Mr. Clavey stated he went to Mayor Rudny’s office, not once but twice. The first time he picked up signs from the Mayor in his office. The second time, Mayor Rudny met Mr. Clavey out in the parking lot of his office and put signs in Mr. Clavey’s truck. At the Legion dinner where the Mayor was the speaker, after the Mayor was finished speaking they went into the barroom area and Mr. Clavey introduced Mayor Rudny to his daughter, his wife and several other of his relatives that live in the area. He also introduced Mayor Rudny to others and announced that he was running for Mayor. And the Mayor shook their hands.
Mayor Rudny stated he does not recall that. He will admit that Mr. Clavey came to his office.
Mr. Clavey stated he has affidavits that people are ready to commit to what he is saying. At the victory party for Mayor Rudny, Mr. Clavey and the Mayor were standing together watching the tally. Mr. Clavey walked away and the Mayor walked out with him.
Former Mayor Welton was calling to concede. They walked back in together and then Mayor Rudny said to Mr. Clavey “thank you, Pat”. People heard that, too.
Mayor Rudny stated he does not recall that. He said he will make a statement for the record. Mr. Clavey was around, but Mayor Rudny never invited him to election night. He is not on the Mayor’s list of – he is not saying that Mr. Clavey didn’t support him. That is different than working on his campaign and that is all the Daily Herald reporter asked Mayor Rudny. He stated Mr. Clavey may have supported him and there are people who support him all the time without the Mayor’s permission. Mayor Rudny stated he would never have asked Mr. Clavey to work on his campaign. Mayor Rudny asked Mr. Clavey if he asked him to walk with him or prepare his literature or be involved with the inner circle of his campaign? No, sir. And he would not have done that and that is what was being alleged. That Mr. Clavey aggressively worked on Mayor Rudny’s campaign and he told the Daily Herald reporter that is not true. He did tell the reporter that he did have contact with Mr. Clavey because Mr. Clavey came forward to support Mayor Rudny. Mr. Clavey stated Mayor Rudny was a better man than Dick Welton and he wanted to see Mayor Rudny win. But the Mayor stated he did not want Mr. Clavey to work on his campaign.
Mr. Clavey stated Peter Karlovics knew his past and Gurnee knew his past. It is amazing that Mayor Rudny could not have known about it.